Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 120

02/06/2006 05:00 PM House ECONOMIC DEV., TRADE, AND TOURISM


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05:18:38 PM Start
05:18:50 PM HB382
05:33:32 PM Presentation: Juneau Economic Development Council
06:03:04 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation by Lance D. Miller, Ph.D., TELECONFERENCED
Executive Director, Juneau Economic
Development Council
*+ HB 382 RECORKING WINE SERVED WITH A MEAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
HB 382-RECORKING WINE SERVED WITH A MEAL                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:18:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NEUMAN announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 382,  "An Act relating to  recorking, sealing,                                                               
or packaging of wine served with  a meal and removal of recorked,                                                               
sealed, or packaged wine from licensed premises."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:19:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS, speaking  as the sponsor, explained  that HB 382                                                               
is a  recorking bill that relates  to the consumption of  wine on                                                               
[a  licensed]  premise.    He expressed  his  concern  about  the                                                               
consumption of  alcohol, blood  alcohol concentration  (BAC), and                                                               
the safety  of [Alaska] roads.   He  added that he's  looking for                                                               
practical ways to reduce the  risk [of alcohol-related accidents]                                                               
without generating a significant fiscal note in the process.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:20:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS  noted [the general] inclination  [of patrons] to                                                               
not surrender  the value  [of purchased  wine] and  expressed his                                                               
desire  to  apply  the "common  sense"  approach  toward  [taking                                                               
uneaten food home]  to the consumption of wine.   He informed the                                                               
committee that  a wine recorking  law, which has been  adopted in                                                               
33  states, generates  [a zero]  fiscal note.   This  legislation                                                               
would allow, as dictated by  the Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC)                                                               
Board, for a restaurant to recork a bottle [of wine].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:22:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS  quoted from an  e-mail written by  Doug Griffin,                                                               
Director,  ABC Board,  which read  in part  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Speaking only for  myself and not on behalf  of the ABC                                                                    
     Board,  I  support  this  legislation.  ...  This  just                                                                    
     removes  one   more  excuse  for  a   person  to  drink                                                                    
     excessively and  endanger the public by  driving.  This                                                                    
     concern over moderate alcohol  consumption leading to a                                                                    
     potential DUI [driving under  the influence] arrest has                                                                    
     been  heightened  in  the public's  mind  and  for  the                                                                    
     hospitality business owners by  the adoption of the .08                                                                    
     BAC standard.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:22:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS  opined that although  .08 [BAC] is  the criminal                                                               
standard,  [Alaskans]  are  "better  off" if  [patrons]  leave  a                                                               
restaurant with  a lower BAC as  it is well known  that [vehicle]                                                               
drivers become impaired  with the consumption of  any [amount] of                                                               
alcohol.  He  opined that although the [BAC] is  legal up to .08,                                                               
a  consumer should  not be  faced  with having  to surrender  the                                                               
value  [of  the  wine]  because  "in  most  cases,  the  consumer                                                               
defaults to  wanting to somehow  enjoy the value that's  in front                                                               
of them, and  if they can't take the bottle  with them, then they                                                               
consume it."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:23:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RAMRAS  further  opined  that  [HB  382]  is  good  for                                                               
restaurants because they are able  to continue to sell wine, good                                                               
for consumers  because they are  able to drink until  they've had                                                               
enough [wine], and good for  public safety because some [patrons]                                                               
will choose  to enjoy the  remainder of  the bottle [of  wine] in                                                               
the  safety of  their  home.   Since  [HB  382]  falls under  the                                                               
provision of  the ABC Board,  he said  that he is  very confident                                                               
that [the  ABC Board]  will establish a  measure that  will allow                                                               
for  [wine] to  be safely  recorked.   He referenced  information                                                               
from the Internet  regarding new [wine] corks  and [wine] corking                                                               
instruments - with costs ranging from  $13.95 to $93 - [which are                                                               
necessary]  for a  restaurant  to properly  recork  a bottle  [of                                                               
wine] in order that the open container law isn't violated.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:24:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  referred to  page 1,  lines 10-12  [of HB
382], which read  [original punctuation provided]:   "a bottle of                                                               
wine that  is recorked, sealed,  or packaged as provided  in this                                                               
subsection is  not an  open container if  the cork  reinserted by                                                               
the  licensee or  the  seal made  by the  licensee  has not  been                                                               
disturbed."   He asked, "Is  there any  way around having  a cork                                                               
inserted in  a bottle  that would  allow it to  still be  an open                                                               
container?"                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:25:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS responded that the  public safety risk associated                                                               
with one entering  a liquor store and making  his/her purchase an                                                               
open container  also, to some extent,  exists with [HB 382].   He                                                               
added that  a recorker  results in  the [wine]  bottle resembling                                                               
its original form.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:26:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS informed  the committee that the  ABC Board would                                                               
have the  ability to  regulate the  manner in  which a  bottle of                                                               
wine is recorked to its satisfaction.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:26:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL said  that he  could appreciate  the cork                                                               
being  reinserted in  a  manner  that a  corkscrew  is needed  to                                                               
uncork  [the bottle  of wine].   He  expressed his  concern about                                                               
[patrons] reinserting the  cork by hand so that  the remainder of                                                               
the cork  protrudes, which  would allow  for [patrons]  to uncork                                                               
[the bottle of wine] again by hand.   He said, "To me, that would                                                               
not be enough."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RAMRAS  explained that  the  language  [of HB  382]  is                                                               
worded  such  that a  corking  instrument  would be  required  to                                                               
remove [the cork].                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:28:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  NEUMAN  mentioned  Mr. Griffin's  e-mail,  which  read:                                                               
"The  bill provides  for  the  ABC Board  to  establish safe  and                                                               
simple ways  to address  this issue and  I do not  see this  as a                                                               
problem."   He added that  fortunately, Alaska has  the advantage                                                               
of following 33 states [that already allow recorking].                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:28:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL noted  that he and Co-Chair  Ramras have a                                                               
conflict of interest.  He opined  that [HB 382] is a "good common                                                               
sense measure" and that he doesn't have a problem with it.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:29:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS explained  that in his private sector  job, he as                                                               
well as  bartenders have had  to chase people who  wander outside                                                               
with an open container because it's  against the law.  The intent                                                               
behind  [HB  382]  is  to  make [Alaska]  roads  more  secure  by                                                               
allowing [patrons] to  have bottles of wine recorked  to enjoy it                                                               
in the privacy of their home.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:30:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NEUMAN asked, "Do you  feel that any establishment would                                                               
have a problem  with any restitution from anybody  trying to come                                                               
back after  them because it's been  recorked?  Do you  think that                                                               
those regulations pretty much have been established?"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:31:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RAMRAS answered  that the  liability isn't  any greater                                                               
than if [an  establishment] serves [a patron] a glass  of wine or                                                               
over serves  [a patron] who has  an accident.  He  added that the                                                               
standard liability is the same.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:31:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL,  in regard to product  quality liability,                                                               
inquired  as  to  whether  there  have  been  any  challenges  to                                                               
recorking  in  other  states.     He  said,  "You're  taking  and                                                               
recorking a brand at your own  establishment; I just wonder if we                                                               
open ourselves up to any other liability."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:31:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RAMRAS  confirmed  that  he  would  look  into  product                                                               
quality liability  before [HB  382] is heard  by the  House Labor                                                               
and Commerce Standing Committee.   He informed the committee that                                                               
he has  a conflict  of interest  since he  controls two  beer and                                                               
wine licenses  and two  beverage dispensary  licenses.   He added                                                               
that he  sees people drink more  than they intend to,  of wine in                                                               
particular,  so  that  he/she doesn't  surrender  the  value  [of                                                               
purchased  wine].   He reiterated  his advocacy  for the  "common                                                               
sense" approach  because he  feels that  it makes  [Alaska] roads                                                               
safer.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:33:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  NEUMAN, upon  determining that  no one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, announced the closure of public testimony.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:33:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  moved to report  HB 382 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection,  HB 382 was reported out of the                                                               
House  Special Committee  on Economic  Development, International                                                               
Trade and Tourism.                                                                                                              

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